[Maria Doukeli]

I've got information about a healer from a man I don't know personally.He was kind to pass me the contact and recommended the man highly, reminding me to be respectful which I promised.
That was about a week ago.
As a Saturnine person I dislike doing things hastily so I had to chew on it.
Yesterday I felt ready so I decided to go ceremoniously about it and ask the I Ching about my endeavor.
I used the marble method, 16 marbles, in my case beads, of 4 colors representing yin, yang and the two types of transforming lines.
I had a few moments of inner silence and then I asked: Should I meet healer A (his name)?
Picked my beads and got ideogram no 58 OPEN with one transforming line, a yin line transforming to yang.

The ideogram shows a person speaking. The name is TUI : interact,interpenetrate, exchange, gather, the words that come from the mouth, the fertilizing mists raising over a body of water.

The realizing person finds friends to explain things


The transforming line now Six at third
The opportunity that is coming up may look good but there is nothing it. Turn away, the road is closed.

This changes everything off course and my initial smile disappears in wonder.

I study the Hidden Possibility now . I get NO 57 GENTLY PENETRATING with one transforming line

Name SUN, penetrate, enter, supple, mild, plants with growing roots.

There is a strong purpose here and you can connect with it.Subtly penetrate it over time.

The transforming line Nine at second
Get at the core of the story, use shamans and historians.

That's it, I thank the oracle,
Should I call him then? Off course.

I sent a text message but haven't got a reply yet.

[Ubudian]

Maria, are you talking about “my” balian/guru that I sent you information on about a week ago? If so, forget text messaging him. Call him directly and speak with him as he hates these new fangled machines almost as much as I do…but not as much, as he has one, and I don’t.

[De Tom]

I would be lying if i said you didn't lose me in the translation about the methods you described, but, i do understand how complicated ones decision process sometimes can be. I did enjoy the way you wrote about it though and how it evolves to the notion of not receiving a reply.

It reminds me of something Swami Kriyananda once said about 2 women who were about to devote themselves to becoming nuns. The nuns felt everything they did had to receive some sort confirmation or sign from god. If they didn't feel any sign or clearance was given or perhaps a 'bad' sign like tripping on a carpet on the way out etc it was thought of as 'it was not meant for me to go there or do that'.

I understand that it's easy to fall into this kind of thinking. I do it myself at times and it feels very real, perhaps it is at times, but i aspire to see the big picture and reduce the thinking of trip on the carpet on my way to look at a painting as a sign of that one should not look at the picture, or, that it should make the picture more beautiful or horribly ugly. The same painting will still be there.

[Ubudian]

Tom, I was struggling to find a way to “say” exactly what you just wrote, and I couldn’t find the words. Well done, I say.

Your carpet analogy is just perfect IMHO, and as you know, “my” guru does not get lost in those translations of what is essentially, a non issue, and of no importance in the overall spectrum of things.

I surely hope Maria understands that neither of us are picking on her in anyway, rather, it’s just our own outlook as formed by years of living here, blended within our own cultural backgrounds. Or, then again, (should I say this?), maybe it’s a “men are from Mars and women are from Venus” kind of thing?

Anyway, I hope Maria does finally catch up with “our” balian/guru and she can go from there with someone who is unquestionably qualified and able to deal with these issues far better than I could ever dream.

[Maria Doukeli]

De Tom, on 28 February 2010 - 12:51 PM, said:

I would be lying if i said you didn't lose me in the translation about the methods you described, but, i do understand how complicated ones decision process sometimes can be. I did enjoy the way you wrote about it though and how it evolves to the notion of not receiving a reply.

It reminds me of something Swami Kriyananda once said about 2 women who were about to devote themselves to becoming nuns. The nuns felt everything they did had to receive some sort confirmation or sign from god. If they didn't feel any sign or clearance was given or perhaps a 'bad' sign like tripping on a carpet on the way out etc it was thought of as 'it was not meant for me to go there or do that'.

I understand that it's easy to fall into this kind of thinking. I do it myself at times and it feels very real, perhaps it is at times, but i aspire to see the big picture and reduce the thinking of trip on the carpet on my way to look at a painting as a sign of that one should not look at the picture, or, that it should make the picture more beautiful or horribly ugly. The same painting will still be there.

Glad you enjoyed it and welcome to comment. Thought to write a diary about my research.
I didn't realize there was a notion of a tricky carpet though, it was more about the right timingor
Something like Pythagoras have said that time is the soul of heavens.
“For time is not an attribute or accident of any chance motion but cause and potency and principle of that which holds together all the things that come to be ...” .
And since I haven't found the section of [i]a good day to visit a healerin my Balinese calendar, I thought to give it a try

[Maria Doukeli]

Ubudian, on 28 February 2010 - 02:06 PM, said:

Tom, I was struggling to find a way to “say” exactly what you just wrote, and I couldn’t find the words. Well done, I say.

Your carpet analogy is just perfect IMHO, and as you know, “my” guru does not get lost in those translations of what is essentially, a non issue, and of no importance in the overall spectrum of things.

I surely hope Maria understands that neither of us are picking on her in anyway, rather, it’s just our own outlook as formed by years of living here, blended within our own cultural backgrounds. Or, then again, (should I say this?), maybe it’s a “men are from Mars and women are from Venus” kind of thing?

Anyway, I hope Maria does finally catch up with “our” balian/guru and she can go from there with someone who is unquestionably qualified and able to deal with these issues far better than I could ever dream.

Thank you for commenting and feel free to do so. I hope I shall be determined enough to write this diary and get your feedback.

[Ubudian]

Maria, for me personally, all I can I write about is what I have witnessed for myself over the years.

Some years ago I gave up trying to explain these things, as it is virtually impossible in the end to do so, certainly within the limited abilities I have and the venues available to openly discuss these issues that are so ripe for ridicule. On the other hand, I’m about as pragmatic and logical a person as one can be, but I’ve seen and personally witnessed too many things here on Bali to ever allow me to think like a predisposed Westerner ever again.

If you don’t mind me saying this, (as I’m going to say it anyway) Pythogoras has absolutely NOTHING to do with Bali, Bali Agama, or what Bali is about. Greek thinking, and Greek mythology is paradoxical enough, but none of this has any bearing on Balinese thought, practice, tradition, culture or whatever. What was key for me, to just take the first step into understanding Bali, was at least a semi abdication of my own cultural roots.

One of the great cultural anthropologists of her time, the American, Margaret Mead, failed miserably here in Bali. She totally blew it. She made a multitude of mistakes within her writings of Bali, all which are now completely dismissed, and all of this was for the same reason...she assumed too much, and she lost her power of observation.

Moreover she got trapped in the oft thought process of comparison of Balinese culture with other cultures, which while some merit can be found in that, conclusions of origin and quick to define “raison d’etre” destroyed her, and she ultimately failed miserably in understanding the Balinese culture.

If I were you, I would lower the Greek flag you fly, and hoist the Indonesian flag. There is nothing nationalistic about this, rather it’s a mind set, and it would be a good fist step in preparing yourself for what you need to learn in order to accomplish your goals as I've offered.

These are just my thoughts, and for certain, they are not intended to offend you in any way.